October 20, 2021. Published by on October 31, 2021. no offense). Chelsea: 410m But I have always felt Liverpool FCs limited support and shirking from the truth of Heysel a disgrace. Something fishy about your story. There are dozens of points that are usually offered to explain the context, not least over ticketing, segregation and a crumbling stadium, but the context does not begin to excuse what happened. Always have. hahahahahahahahhahahaIts cunts like you chanting Champions and We are gonna win the league thats the reason few neutrals wanted Liverpoo to win itUr lot are as bad as ManureNo matter. Its an event that ties both clubs and will do for a long time to come. However, an investigation did concede that some culpability lay. To be fair, fuck the royal family, and if you disagree you are a backwards twat!! Albert Roosens, the former secretary-general of the Belgian Football Union (BFU), was given a six-month suspended prison sentence for regrettable negligence with regard to ticketing arrangements. He and I both had our scarves on, we neither spoke the others language but we exchanged scarves, embraced and cried together. Yet surely, after 30 years, it's time for English football to face up to this shame. . It should be noted that Liverpool did not serve the sixth year of the ban, and were allowed back in to European competition after 5 years, denying Crystal Palace a first campaign. On 29 May 1985, 39 Juventus fans died when they were attacked by a bunch of drunken, thuggish Liverpool fans at the Heysel Stadium. Sign up and stay up to date with our daily newsletter. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. These neutrals he refers to, I imagine this relates to school days when a lot of people darrrrn sarrf jumped on the Liverpool bandwagon. Justice for Heysel? As to whether individuals were brought to account, 27 arrests were made on suspicion of manslaughter and 26 men were charged. The world was appalled. Still won fuck all Cheers Stevie G!!! Its easy for armchair supporters like this Arsenal tit to rely on hearsay and lies for his blog and to promulgate such bollocks but unless you were actually there you know fuck all! If you think that windows only ever get smashed at Anfield then you obviously dont get to many games Michael. No amount of context ever could. The game should never have taken place. Sad to see your result today against the rent boys (even if I personally find a City title win more soluble! Potrebbe essere la pi bella azione di Michel Platini .. Grazie per aver il tempo di rispondere e di procedere a tali commenti riflessivo. The private ceremony at Anfield this morning. Liverpool were resented by most other clubs during that period, because they had the massive financial advantage compared to any other European club. Heysel is an unspeakably awkward subject for Liverpool perhaps more, perhaps less, for the anguish the club and the city endured four years later at Hillsborough. Every club throughout the Premier League will have their own stories of too many Liverpool fans turning up, fake tickets, and the lack of concern many Scousers have for their own fans safety. One real mystery surrounding Heysel is that the tragedy is even more of a taboo in Turin. I think a lot of people like the fact that our starting 11 has 50-60% British players. On the anniversary of the day of the Hillsborough disaster, you always have somebody throw in well what about paying respect for the 39 that Liverpool Fans murdered. Supporters told similar stories on the way home, some had been slashed on the arse and had spent time in hospital. For a long time, with so little other information, those images allowed me to let myself believe the poor fan behaviour was from both sides and the tragedy could just as easily have befallen Liverpool fans. We have much common ground here when it comes to not just Heysel, but with regards Hillsborough also. For almost 20 years they were totally financially boosted by Littlewoods Pools, which made it impossible for any other club in Europe to compete with them. Gerrard did want away however I think he knew that if he did go he would never be welcome in the city again. The coach driver advised us to lie on top of each other in the isle to protect us from missiles being thrown through the broken windows as we left the city. Rodgers has had just over a season in charge. Just to highlight how few games Liverpool have played further: Manchester City: 54 games Hillsborough was a horrific and wholly avoidable tragedy, precipitated by the popular belief that football fans were animals who should be herded into pens like pigs or sheep. Well done Oliver, a truthful and painful piece of reading on a dark chapter of football. Clearly Everton and Liverpool have both benefited massively by playing hardly any games this season. Why don't we remember the Juventus fans who never came home? Maybe this unwillingness to accept our part in what happened has increased other peoples eagerness to use it as a stick to beat us with over the years, albeit it often in a cheap and snidey manner at times. Both are great clubs. Hooligans from the far right would not have been welcome.). Before the first leg at Anfield, Liverpool supporters held up a mosaic to form the word amicizia. What a terrible night for football regardless of who you support or who you blame. For Heysel to return to the popular consciousness, and receive its own nationwide day of remembrance, observed by the entire English football family. And where have you heard that before? Agree totally Bob, I did think the running a kid over thing was a bit unnecessary. There are two very obvious reasons for this widespread reluctance to talk about Heysel. Those stampedes might have been considered standard terrace fare at the time, a token act of territorialism and intimidation, but it led innocent fans to flee in terror. Chelsea lost 49.4 million. An excellent, thoughtful and honest piece of writing. Jacques Georges, the Uefa president at the time, and Hans Bangerter, his general secretary, were threatened with imprisonment but eventually given conditional discharges. Can all liverpool fans who climbed over walls, barged there way past police and forced their way into Hillsborough, please hand yourself in to police. For many years, Liverpool s response to Heysel was woefully inadequate. They are battling against the evil forces of Russian Oligarch's and Middle Eastern Oil men. WORK. Look at how Everton FC and majority of their fans react and respect, they know too well it could have been them had they been drawn to play at Hillsborough and not Villa. This is all entirely justified. Great article, if you want to read more indepth articles on someone who was actually there visit: You will have to do an archive search to find anything more than that specifically a couple of news articles on the anniversary. Within hours the FA, under pressure from the government, announced that no English club would play in the following seasons Uefa competition and that of course included Everton, denied a tilt at the European Cup, and Norwich City, denied a first ever European campaign. It was surreal. Billionaires in their own right. Yet there was no minute's silence for Heysel during the final round of Premier League games last weekend, or the play-off finals. They controbuted to manslaughter, and LFC were responsible for the 5 year ban which badly hit English clubs. info@brainnest.org +233 2490 647 92; is ayran good for acid reflux; barnkalas i helsingborg; zeta reticuli astrology Your email address will not be published. Steven Gerrard ran over a kid Nice men then. Two days later Uefa announced an indefinite ban on English clubs. I was in section Z. @tom, yep no doubt he wanted to leave and of course plenty of rumours, unqualified accounts if why. The lack of a full and proper inquiry has also led to a lot of misconceptions too it seems, particularly among younger fans. I was taken there and operated on while still in my kit red shirt, shorts, socks, the boots, the whole shebang. In The Truths of Heysel a book written by Andrea Lorentini, whose father Roberto died in Brussels and whose grandfather Otello has led the campaign for the victims to be officially recognised by the club writes of the bewilderment, reticence, guilty silences and suspicion the bereaved have faced in their dealings with Juventus. It is a black mark and it will be there forever. Happy someone else taking a 10 year sentence for his crime. Well that went well Bob! The Kop sing hes big and f***in hard, mmm is that why he kicked off on one block in front of all his mates. NEW Home cycling shorts + shirts now on the shop. but often it was not replicated the other way round, especially recently. Football, from that moment, would never be the same again. Its a joyless success, but the victory enabled the Bianconeri to fly to Tokyo in winter to play the Intercontinental Cup final. All Rights Reserved. These are the fans that walk around London chanting,were not English were Scouse,and stick your royal family up your arse. While we have finally been able to make progress with regards Hillsborough its sad that Heysel victims groups in Italy have had less success. Liverpool immediately withdrew, in disgrace, from the next seasons Uefa Cup. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. It was only brought into the open when Liverpool and Juventus were drawn together in the Champions League quarter-final in 2005, at which point the Merseyside club, after consultation with their Italian counterparts, announced it would be a game of friendship. The Hillsborough Independent Panel report of September 2012 not only confirmed the scale of the injustice perpetrated by the British authorities; it propelled Hillsborough back into the present, and burned it into the consciousness of a whole new generation of supporters. Do not believe the myths put out by the biased press. It was very, very strange. Maybe the Scouse Nicklas Bendtner. Liverpool fan telling the reporter that fake tickets were being used to gain entry by liverpool fans and this was also to another liverpool fan who had used a fake ticket. Some tried to climb a wall to escape. I cannot remember the last time I heard Liverpool fans sing about Munich, maybe he is getting us mixed up with Leeds fans. I am a Chelsea fan who has been going to games for over 50 years now and I vividly remember the Liverpool chairman of the time, blaming Chelsea fans for causing the violence. Some people were coming in saying people had died, others were popping in with different messages. Id rather see you guys win it ahead of city Chelsea and the oh so putrid manure. Never seen such a hateful biased article in a while. i have never seen such a bitter and twisted remarks about another club in a lfc blog. Heysel is a huge stain on Liverpool 's history. As everyone on this page acknowledges, it has remained a very uncomfortable topic to raise, so thanks again for this balanced and enlightening piece. So was gendarme captain Johan Mahieu, who was in charge of the policing the stands at Heysel. Lets see how they perform next year when they have to play twice a week. An error has occurred; the feed is probably down. Non ero allo stadio (per fortuna). I found this article very informative and brilliantly written, as well as the comments (apart from that last one)! Liverpool had gambled on my fitness by starting me in the match as Id dislocated my shoulder two times previously that season, the most recent of which was only a fortnight earlier. We saw people wearing chelsea and West Ham colours beneath their red scarves. I was there. And yet he didnt, and I wont even waste time with the oft-circulated rumours as to why he didnt, but LFC fans just treat it like it never happened. This both the sanction and, it could be argued, the widespread loss of life had been coming. Huge success at home and abroad allowed Liverpool to compete for top players. too right. It is an unwanted corner of history. The blame for Heysel was initially laid entirely on Liverpool fans, and 14 were later found guilty of manslaughter and jailed. Required fields are marked *. The largest, most ludicrous myth around at this moment in time is that neutrals want Liverpool to win the league. More LFC fans like this please! They will win it, but they are not the peoples favorites..its flash in the pan and will take them another 25years to win it when they have to deal with a full programme next year! Sadly, this is a poorly argued (and clearly prejudiced) article. Little wonder then that 12 months later at Heysel Liverpool fans were packed cheek by jowl with Juventus fans trouble was bound to occur. There is an opportunity albeit a further year down the line next May on the unbelievably 30th anniversary I really hope we mobilise to do somethings genuine and large. Another extract looks at how incidents amongst fans at the 1984 European Cup final in Rome the previous year may have contributed to the events at Heysel: The fact that the victims' families had to wait 23 years for justice was abhorrent, proof that the British establishment viewed Liverpudlians in a cruelly pejorative fashion, best summed up in Boris Johnson's 2004 article which claimed Liverpool was a self-pity city, hooked on grief and welfare. There has been vitriol between Arsenal and Liverpool ever since they attempted to charge Liverpool fans 65-93 for a FA CUP 5th round tie. still i would rather see arsenal win da thing ahead of city, chelsea or united. Gloating nah I think singing about our rich history in defense of being unable to win the league. Both Liverpool and Juventus as a mark of respect for the victims should do some And who can forget the Michael Shields incident. Liverpool or my club Everton did not get a mention by the press/television when it came to the antics of numerous hooligan firms. As for justice, an initial inquiry by Marina Coppieters, a leading Belgian judge, found after 18 months that the police and the authorities, in addition to Liverpool supporters, should face charges. If you think police doctoring paperwork and giving false evidence, killed the 96 then you are more stupid than I thought. Last match of the 1976 season, Wolves v Liverpool. Ok re the knocking kid down but the editor using it to damage his reputation, do arsenal fans disregard Tony Adams for being an alchoholic or Seamen for being an adulterer? I think there is still a lot to be said for what happened at Heysel, horrible and shocking but in my opinion Juve fans started the trouble, bricks, stones knifings all before the match. Their reckless behaviour is an accident waiting to happen. I knew about the ambulance too, shocking behavior but surely not isolated more to do with a high profile game. The second: it was English supporters who were responsible. Quite your whinging and stop throwing stones. Their are bad people in every city and all we can do is apologise. Match Action. The key reason why Liverpool are the neutrals favourite (although we have already debunked this myth) is due to them doing it the right way. The people that were found guilty of manslaughter do not represent the true values of Liverpool football club. You are as likely to come across debates about how the Juve team celebrated and how the club has done little to commemorate Heysel than you are about the evil of English fans. They do all they can to gloss over this tragedy, blaming everyone and everything other than themselves. There was an eeriness about the game. I then read that any trophy parade is planned for . 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